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Help requested posted on 21st April 2017:

Walking and cycling path on Cardrew Industrial Estate

Please would you clarify the priority rules with the above? My friend says the walk/cycle path is part of the main carriageway so has priority when going over side roads (otherwise why would any cyclist not stay on the main road?). But I have noticed the 'nobbly' paving at each side road which implies (to me) that they are indicating suggested crossing points (ie you are crossing a priority road). Please can you explain for me?

Catherine Henderson

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Response posted on 21st April 2017 by:
Roy Brocklebank

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Walking and cycling path on Cardrew Industrial Estate

Perhaps as a physical indication to partially sighted people that the pathway is crossing a road?

The curb is usually flush with the road at this point and would not provide any warning of priorities.

Regardless of priorities, it would be a foolish pedestrian or cyclist that crossed a side road on the assumption that a motor vehicle would automatically stop.

You will find similar pavement markings at cross roads as well.


Response posted on 21st April 2017 by:
Derek C Donald

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Walking and cycling path on Cardrew Industrial Estate

I would refer you to Rule 8 of the Highway Code, 2007 Edition. Rules are likely to be renumbered in later editions, but wording will not have changed.
'At a junction when crossing the road, look out for traffic turning into the road, especially from behind you. If you have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, you have priority and they should give way. (Rule 170.'

This to me means, in the interest of your safety, that unless you have started to cross, you must give way to traffic already turning into or out of the road and even when crossing you should be aware of what is going on around you.


Response posted on 21st April 2017 by:
Adrian Roberts

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Walking and cycling path on Cardrew Industrial Estate

The combined cycleway/footway does not have priority over side road traffic at Cardrew.

The give way lines for the side roads are at the edge of the main carriageway and the cycleway/footway runs behind these lines. Cyclists and pedestrians should therefore give way to traffic already on the side road, which they are technically joining (and leaving) at each junction.

This can be a significant disadvantage of segregating cyclists from the main carriageway, as they lose the priority they would otherwise have over side road traffic. In this instance, the benefits of segregation would presumably have been deemed to outweigh the interruption caused by the relatively few side roads and their low traffic flow. Existing road width was also an issue, I believe, preventing the cycle lanes simply being provided on-carriageway without much more extensive widening work.

As Derek Donald correctly points out, however, pedestrians and (by implication here) cyclists who are in the act of crossing the side roads do have priority over traffic turning into it from the main road - always subject to a modicum of common sense and self-preservation, of course, as R170 implies!

Cyclists and pedestrians also have priority at the numbers of dropped accesses - where there is no formal junction, and access to a site is across the unbroken cycleway/footway.

The tactile paving you describe is intended to inform blind and partially-sighted pedestrians of the presence of a road ahead, and the lack of a discernible kerb at the crossing point. This prevents their accidentally walking out into traffic. You are correct that it marks a priority change, although that is actually incidental to its purpose.


Response posted on 21st April 2017 by:
Andrew Fraser

E: andrew.fraser@falkirk.gov.uk
T: 01324504931

Walking and cycling path on Cardrew Industrial Estate

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/329150/ltn-2-08_Cycle_infrastructure_design.pdf

It's all explained in the above highly colourful and entertaining document. :-)


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