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Help requested posted on 15th September 2017:

Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

We are looking at the possibility of putting a 'Red Light Camera' on a Puffin Crossing and have been told that we cannot do that. Has any other authority put a Red Light Camera on a pedestrian crossing? Or tried and failed? Thanks in advance.

Jonathan Mason

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Response posted on 18th September 2017 by:
Andrew Fraser

E: andrew.fraser@falkirk.gov.uk
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Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

I cannot answer either of these questions, but I have some experience of the use of red light cameras. They are applied to certain level crossings in Scotland, one of which was within "my" area. I have protested about the injustice involved ever since. The trouble is that the situation faced by drivers has never been properly studied (officially) - so no-one (officially) knows what the problem is. Of course, there is one. Do we really believe that thousands of drivers jump the (amber) light for fun?
The application of "strict liability" and the ignorance of the "authorities" involved about how vision works, however, means that we're making no progress.
I would very careful, therefore, before I installed any such system. The first question that arises in my mind is, why do you have a problem at this particular crossing?
PS: I have it on good authority that the red light cameras to which I refer (currently replaced by the mobile cameras) unsurprisingly made no difference to the rate of "offending". But the injustice continues ...


Response posted on 18th September 2017 by:
Wendy Mitchell

E: wendy.mitchell@ayrshireroadsalliance.org
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Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

http://www.safetycameras.gov.scot/cameras/safety-camera-locations/west/south-ayrshire/a719-whitletts-road-ayr-at-walker-road


Response posted on 18th September 2017 by:
Andrew Fraser

E: andrew.fraser@falkirk.gov.uk
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Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

Looks like drivers (and, possibly, pedestrians) are being made to pay for a whole series of historic design/planning blunders/failures on the A719 at Walker Road!


Response posted on 18th September 2017 by:
Suzanne Coles

E: scoles@swindon.gov.uk
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Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

Whilst Swindon no longer operates safety cameras (including red light cameras) when we did we had a red light camera on a PUFFIN crossing.
I understood cameras, at least in the past, could be installed where the KSI level met the set criteria/threshold whether a junction or crossing.


Response posted on 21st September 2017 by:
Tom Cowie

E: tom.cowie@warrington.gov.uk
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Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

Hi Jonathan,

One exists in Manchester, on the A5103 Princess Road -one of the major routes out of Manchester City Centre.

DriveSafe is the partnership that manages the camera and I would advise you to get in touch with them in the first instance.

http://www.drivesafe.org.uk/contact-us/Pages/default.aspx

A photo of the camera from Drivesafe can be seen here: http://static.tfgm.com/drivesafe_map/camera_locations/MAC252S.jpg

And on Google here: https://goo.gl/maps/WULDGJjBFy72

Hope this helps!


Response posted on 21st September 2017 by:
Nadeem

E: nadeem.mohammed@tfgm.com
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Red Light Cameras on Pedestrian Crossing

I believe it can be done and we have one locally within Greater Manchester as mentioned. The confusion comes about with offence codes. Put simply the offence is the same - failing to comply with an automatic traffic signal. There may be some issues with suitability - but that will depend on the equipment capability, as well as site layout and geometry.


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